<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/17/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Michael Poppers</b> <<a href="mailto:MPoppers@kayescholer.com">MPoppers@kayescholer.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p>In Avodah Digest V23#196, RAF replied to RRW:<br>
>> As we know, the first night MIGHT be a valid exception in that pizmon - even for yekkes - starts "Bemotzo'ei Menuchei" - suggesting ?A Saturday Night start. ?[nevertheless as noted - Yekkes do it before dawn even on the first Sunday...] <<
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> Yes, it says bemotzaei menuchah, but it also mentions: "retzeh 'atiratam be'amedam baleilot". Clearly this stuff was composed for early mornings. <<br>
Perhaps that "amidah" refers to a Tiqqun Chatzos type (and timing)?<br>
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G'mar tov and all the best from<span class="q"><br>
--Michael Poppers via RIM pager<br>
</span></p></div></blockquote></div>NO Real S'tira - AISI:<br><br>""Bemotzo'ei Menuchei" - suggesting ?A Saturday Night start." right kidmanuch<br>"retzeh 'atiratam be'amedam baleilot" Leilot refers to the FOLLOWING nights NOT the first
<br><br>So this pizmon suggests BOTH starting Sat. Night and continuing in the end of the night before morning <br>-- <br>Kesiva vaChasima Tova<br>Best Wishes for 5768,<br><a href="mailto:RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com">RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com
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