<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/23/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Micha Berger</b> <<a href="mailto:micha@aishdas.org">micha@aishdas.org</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:26:03 -0700 I wrote to Areivim:<br>:> The Tzeduqim in the days of bayis sheini were bad. We know they sent<br>:> malshinim to the Romans, they sent people to lie to Sanhedrin about<br>:> qiddush hachodesh, they were anti-Yahadus and cost us lives. So how
<br>:> is hating or one of the other movements "chinam"? It is because if<br>:> our hatred were fueled by ahavas Hashem, we would be investing more<br>:> effort in vilifying our own chata'im than in vilifying theirs, and
<br>:> them for embracing those chata'im as positive values.<br><br>Sin'as chinam is usually taken to be causeless, meichinam. My post led<br>to a discussion here of whether sin'as chinam include sin'ah that has
<br>a cause, but is lechinam, purposeless.<br><br><br><br>Tir'u baTov!<br>-mi</blockquote><div><br><br>See The Mishna Brura re: "mal'igim alav " [siman aleph]<br><br>AISI you ARE permittedto hate people who act in a certain way, but first you have to give them private hochacha. It's kind of like eidim giving hasra'ah. You have to be sure that the person is acting with malice - or at least conviction - and is not really a shoggeg and does not know better.
<br></div><br></div>When Hazal attacked Tzadokim they probably had their share of disuccoins at least with the group in general.<br><br>Whne WE hate a given Jew for being a member of a group, we often do not take the time to discern if the INDIVIDUAL is guilty of suspected behavior or not. Hating this person w/o INVESTING th time and effort required to make such a discernment first is lechinam, It's FREE. You have not gone through proper the hoops and therefore have not paid the price.
<br><br>-- <br>Kesiva vaChasima Tova<br>Best Wishes for 5768,<br><a href="mailto:RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com">RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com</a><br>Please Visit: <br><a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/
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