<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/7/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Micha Berger</b> <<a href="mailto:micha@aishdas.org">micha@aishdas.org</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br><br>Charatah is inherently depressing. I could even see someone explain<br>"charatah" to a child as "feeling sad over something I did". On the<br>other hand, while qabbalah al ha'asid isn't /inherently/ joyous (in
<br>that it is theoretically possible to make such a qabbalah without<br>joy), if properly considered it would be joyous -- a renewed and<br>positive state, new opportunities.<br><br><br><br>Tir'u baTov!<br>-mi<br><br>
</blockquote></div><br>If Harata is remorse - an emotion such as depression would be the natural consequence.<br>OTOH, if Harata is a change of heart upon realizing that an erro ws made an dthere is a BETTER way to look at it, then it need not become emotional at all
<br><br>EG Harat for a neder. Had I known that my nephew would get engaged this Thurdsay I would not have vowed to not eat Meat on Mondays and Thursdays. This kind of regret is not depressing. just a realization that the action was done without considering the facts.
<br><br>EVERY Shoggeig has this element - I coulda/shoulda known better. It is not necesarrily at all depressing. <br><br>Another example: IF I had know Ya'kov preapred the Sidra better than I I would have not voulnteered to lein today. I have harata because I am now aware that his leining would have been superior. I need not feel dcepressed over this, just better informed.
<br><br>AISI Rambam takesseomthing akin to this more dispassionate approach to harata in general, [albeit he does describe some form of exclamation that indicates SOME emotion],<br>OTOH Rabbeinu Yonah comes across to me as more emotionally involved.
<br clear="all"><br>Bottom line, Teshuva is gnerally an emotion process for most people, but it is not necesarily the case. Teshuva and Harata can be based upon a more intelligent or informed or enlightened reconsideration of one;s actions.
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