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face="Times New Roman">But as I said, the bigger issue for me is how exactly
this Minhag got started in the first place? IIRC the Gemarah talks about it.
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face="Times New Roman">Aveiros all about doing Teshuva? ...and not about
transferring Averios onto a <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>chicken? I doubt that this practice has
it's origin in the Torah. The Torah speaks of Karbanos on the Mizbeach. Not
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color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=371290311-08082007>Actuarial logic-we see the
logic by a karban for shogeig - it should be me etc.. but we don't want
anyone to think it's a real karban etc.</SPAN></FONT></o:p></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=371290311-08082007>IIRC last time I looked into
this the Ari was quoted as a kabbalistic source for the practice and the gra
said darkei emori but most telling to me was that it was brought down by the
mahari dura as "nahagu haam" which based on the gemara taanit 26a simply means
people started doing and we don't stop them - (me perhaps similar to the wisdom
of the jewish people extolled by R'YBS)<BR><BR>KT<BR>joel
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