<div><span class="894103018-31072007">JR -Interesting that this type of supposition/argument in other cases is dismissed by a simple, they were at that level, we're not. </span></div>
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<div><span class="894103018-31072007">DB - Of course Kodesh Kodoshim should be assumed to be judged subjectively by the times. Otherwise the Rambam may as well be completely obsolete, beacuse there is no way to judge it. RMF may have counted as a Poshut Yid back then, but that doesn't mean he isn't Kodesh Kodoshim now. And the least of Leviim back then might be the greatest Gadol HaDor 500 years ago, but it is hard to think that he would look himself in the mirror, compare himself to everyone else, and say, 'I am sanctum sanctorum' as RAL proposes the bar ought to be.
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<div><span class="894103018-31072007"></span>JR - <span class="894103018-31072007"> In any event the shevet based exemption could be simply understood as a practical and role model approach ( do we really need as many kohanim as the descendants of Aaron?)
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<div><span class="894103018-31072007">DB - The point is not need for a particular job, the point is the correctness of application of an exemption which in theory is based on achievement. </span></div>
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<div><span class="894103018-31072007">JR - what does the netziv understand as to their activities in non-wartime? Were they all absentee landlords? Does anyone else take this approach?</span></div>
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<div><span class="894103018-31072007">DB - What's the difference? You haven't addressed the main point which is that the Netziv is an open contradiction to the need of every single exemption being based on looking oneself in the mirror and having some over-inflated ego.
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<div><span class="894103018-31072007"></span></div><span class="894103018-31072007">JR -" with no concern for the Cheshbonos of Bnei Adam " When I originally learned this Rambam I was taught this meant that they did not do so because they got stipends or were even aware of them.
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<div><span class="894103018-31072007">DB - These people aren't learning so they can get stipends, they are getting stipends so they can learn. (Any reference to Shitas HaRambam vis-a-vis getting money while learning is, according to RMF, Atzas Yetzer Hara, and has no place in this discussion. One simply cannot hope to be Muchtar B'Kesser Torah and hold like that Rambam today, as per RMF, and to say that one loses Kodesh Kodoshim status today because he receives money to subsist on while learning, is, IMHO, vaiter Atzas Yetzer Hara.)
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<div><span class="894103018-31072007"> JR </span><span class="894103018-31072007">-imho this is apples and oranges - would you group someone who never married with someone who deferred pirya vrivya due to learning or other extenuating circumstances?
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<div><span class="894103018-31072007">DB - First of all, well over 50 percent of Charedim do eventully do some kind of army service. Secondly, what does that have to do with the exemption of Shevet Levi? If it applies to Mercaz HaRav at age 18, then it applies to a Charedi at age 35. And, BTW, if someone is deferring Pirya VRivya for learning,
i.e. relying on Ben Azzai, then of course the same Ain Yityzro Misgaber Alav and Nafsho Chashkah BaTorah would apply to a 45 year old just as it did to Ben Azzai who never married.</span></div></div>
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