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<div>>>However, perhaps another root of the bein hametzarim practices is a<br>fulfillment of Zecher l'Mikdash, which the gemara (RH 30a) traces to "Tziyon<br>he, doreish ein lah" - we are obligated to be doreish (to seek out) Tziyon.
<br>Of course, zecher l'mikdash could also be external and action-based, but the<br>concept of being "doreish" sounds stronger than that.<<<br> </div>
<div>To which Akiva replied:<br>>>You're confusing zecher lemikdash with zecher lechurban. The former is marking mitzvas that were done while the BhM stood and include things like lulav kol shiva. It is with respect to this aspect that the gemora uses this posuk. Furthermore, there is no element of aveilus involved; lulav is performed publicly on YT, and many more proofs. The other zecher is an aveilus type zecher and exists WRT the events of the destruction. It is not here that that posuk is used.<<
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<div>It is certainly true that Zecher l'Mikdash and Zecher l'Churban lead to different practices, and the gemara even assigns them different root pesukim. It is further true that the Zecher l'Mikdash activities involve no overt aveilus.
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<div>However, as I understand it, the two memorials are separate observances that lead to the same goal: Remembering the Beis haMikdash. Much as Kavod/Yirah lead to the same recognition of one's parents, and Zachor/Shamor lead to the same recognition of Shabbos, so Zecher l'Churban and Zecher l'Mikdash lead to a wrenching of the heart for the loss of the Beis haMikdash, just from two opposite directions.
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<div>Be well,</div>
<div>Mordechai<br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Please note my new email address: <a href="mailto:torczyner@gmail.com">torczyner@gmail.com</a><br><br>Congregation Sons of Israel, Allentown, PA <a href="http://www.sonsofisrael.net">
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