I wrote that > "Yir'as HaShem" is not fear of HaShem Himself, but that it > refers to a fear of *hurting His feelings* (kavyachol). ... > Yirah is my fear of stepping over the line and doing something > that would offend Him. R' Daniel Israel responded > The way you are describing it, yiras HaShem still seems to be > associated with a situation which may bring onesh. If I step > over the line, he may punish me. Yes, indeed, it can be seen both ways. The problem with this discussion is that I blundered into the imprecise term "yirah". I should have been more careful to distinguish "yiras ha-chet" (which I was focusing on) from "yiras ha-onesh" (which RDI focused on). So perhaps the next question should be: Is "yiras HaShem" comparable to "yiras ha-chet", or is it comparable to "yiras ha-onesh", or perhaps it is something else entirely? Akiva Miller