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size=2>From: "Chana Luntz" <A
href="mailto:chana@kolsassoon.org.uk">chana@kolsassoon.org.uk</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
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size=2><BR><BR><BR>R'n SP wrote:</FONT></DIV>
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size=2>> A former student of mine is a very successful budding opera<BR>>
singer. Although she knows that halacha does not permit kol <BR>> isha
in performance (even in the most lenient piskei halacha <BR>> that I'm aware
of, at least) [--old R'n SP]<BR><BR>In response, R'n CL wrote:<BR></DIV></FONT>
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size=2>>>>>Sigh, rejected from Areivim again on the grounds that it
is more suited<BR>to Avodah:<BR>....assuming that there is no<BR>issur on a non
Jewish men, why should a Jewish women not be able to earn<BR>a living performing
for non Jewish men and women (knowing that no frum<BR>Jewish man would be found
in an opera house). <<</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>But it would be OK for a woman to perform for a non-frum Jewish man, who
might well be found in an opera house? There are at least some
Jews living in every city in the world big enough to have an opera house, and
it's reasonable to assume that Jews -- being among the most cultured and
affluent people in every city -- will sometimes go to the opera.</DIV>
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<DIV>If it's not OK for a Jewish man to hear a woman sing I don't know how it
can be OK for a Jewish woman to sing in a venue where there is a very high
probability that at least one member of the audience is a Jewish man.</DIV>
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<DIV>BTW Chana should not feel bad about having her post rejected by arvm and
reposted to avodah, because here on Avodah the subject header is still
directly related to the substance of the posts, whereas on arvm the thread has
become increasingly divorced from its ostensible subject line.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
PTSIZE="10"><BR><B>--Toby
Katz<BR>=============</B></FONT></DIV></DIV></FONT><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT style="color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px">See what's free at <A title="http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503" href="http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503" target="_blank">AOL.com</A>. </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>