<BODY><P>R. Marty Bluke wrote: </P>
<P>>One creative solution that is used in at least 1 shul that I know of in Israel is to do the following. In Chazaras Hashsatz of Neila skip all the selichos, duchen and then right after chazaras hashatz (before avinu malkenu, kaddish tiskabel, etc.) go back and say all the selichos you skipped. This allows you to duchen (before shkia) while not having to shlep afterwards as you are saying all the selichos which take some time. By saying them before kaddish tiskabel they are still connected to the chazaras hashatz. <BR></P>
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<P>This creative solution is very old. See SA OC 623:5 Mishne Brurah ot 8, who suggests this, citing the Magen Avraham, who cites the Hagahot Maimaniot.</P>
<P>Saul Mashbaum</P></BODY>