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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would assume that it&#8217;s not legally
binding, otherwise the RIAA would have done it long ago. In addition, halachically,
there isn&#8217;t any shtar, any kinyan or any t&#8217;nai. Doesn&#8217;t seem
to be binding at all. Also, according to what they write, it would be l&#8217;chatchilah
assur to damage or to discard their CDs&nbsp; - the absolution is only for
after the fact. As far as copying is concerned, fair-use permits it (whatever
fair-use is), so how can they say that it&#8217;s bona fide theft according to
civil law? Also, unless it&#8217;s in the package insert, they never disclosed
the terms of the lease. Also, where is the kinyan taking place? The retailer
pays Aderet, and the customer pays the retailer. Yet, Aderet is trying to enter
into a contractual relationship directly with the customer. To sum up, I think
that this is just a PR effort, not worth the paper it&#8217;s printed on.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
avodah-bounces@lists.aishdas.org [mailto:avodah-bounces@lists.aishdas.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Newman,Saul Z<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, February 23, 2007
11:41 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Avodah'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Avodah] sold or leased?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_cktCgO7QYZg/Rdzia08k-bI/AAAAAAAAADk/aCWhHSr1FJw/s1600-h/aderetLease.jpg"
target="_blank">http://bp1.blogger.com/_cktCgO7QYZg/Rdzia08k-bI/AAAAAAAAADk/aCWhHSr1FJw/s1600-h/aderetLease.jpg</a>&nbsp;
a frum record company's non-sale of its records. an amalgam of halachic /civil
law issues?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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