Re the discussion about 3 kochavim beinonim: When I learned in Ponevez, I heard b'shem the Chazon Ish (who was still alive at the time) that when one sees ten stars, it means that there are three beinonim. As for the comment that "there are places where even shkias hachama doesn't happen," it depends on how one looks at it. At the pole, in summer, the sun rises in the sky until it reaches a high point, then starts setting until it reaches a low point, twenty-four hours after the rise began, then starts rising again. Though the sun is always in the sky, it might be justified to consider as sh'kias hachama the moment when the setting ends and the rising begins. Certainly, it would seem that that is the moment the date changes. I don't know what the metzius is during the six-month night. EMT