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<div>See Sugia Brochos 38a, and Tos. D"H vHilchisa 38b.</div>
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<div>Kol Tuv,</div>
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<div class=AOLPlainTextBody id=AOLMsgPart_0_5cbbccce-07a3-4503-a123-89cea15966a3><PRE><TT>On Sat, November 4, 2006 10:36 am, SBA cited a reader of Mavakshei Torah who
: asks about the nusach of "Hamotzi Lechem min Haaretz".
: He notes that all other similar brochos use the workd "Borei",
: eg 'Pri Ha'etz', 'Pri Ho'adama', 'Minei Mezonos', 'Minei Besomim', 'Pri
: Hagofen'.
: So why not here as well?
: And after all, we do not actually get our bread straght from the ground.
I would think that's asked and answered. Beri'ah is yeish mei'ayin, so it's
not appropriate for bread. Minei mezonos becomes odd though. Yes, Hashem does
directly create mezonos, but the particular mazon the person is about to eat
has as much (or more human involvement) as bread.
R' Ron Yitzchak Eisenman spoke about this in a derashah one Shabbos morning.
(I forgot his sheim omero, but since RRYE is CC-ed, I invite him to "reply to
all" lehavi hege'ulah.)
IIRC, RRYE taught that the whole point of acknowledging that HQBH is the
Mamtzi of the bread, is bedavka because it's indirect. Lechem is the thing for
which man is most likely to fall into the trap of kochi ve'otzem yadi, ch"v.
This is the same reason why Birkhas haMazon is so much longer than the
berakhah of Borei Nefashos.
I used the word Mamtzi because I reconjugated hamotzi, but I'm glad I did. It
brought to mind Rambam, pereq 1 meHil' Yesodei haTorah. HQBH is the Mamtzi for
everthing, including the lechem, the physics, chemistry and biology, human
beings their psyches and knowledge, etc... everything it took to produce the
lechem. It fits nicely that the word Mamtzi is used by the rishonim to discuss
First Cause, not only direct cause.
(Of course the word could have drifted in meaning, but that takes us to a
different thread....)
Tir'u baTov!
-mi
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