Aruch haShulchan O"C 514:19 writes "A Ner Shel B'teilah is when you don't need the light at all. But if you want to add much more light (l'hosif ohr harbeh), that is certainly mutar, and is Oneg Yom Tov..." Regarding neros in shul, he writes there, "It is for Kavod HaTzibur, and everyone is noheg to allow it. Nevertheless, you should warn them not to have overly many (shelo l'harbos harbeh), especially on the day of Hazkaras Neshamos, when they do infinitely many (she'marbin bli shiur), and you should stop them from this." >From this language, it sounds to me that the AhS believes that while in general more light is more oneg, it can reach a point where there is so much light that additional candles are considered Shel Batalah. This is extremely similar to Rav SZ Auerbach's comment (Shmiras Shabbos K'Hilchasa 43:(171)) that when electric lights are already on, Neros Yom Tov add no extra simcha whatsoever. Okay, let's turn to the Chofetz Chaim. Mishneh Brura 514:30 writes that when having a bris (which is obviously during the daytime), even if it is at home, one may light candles, because it is for "kavod and chivuv mitzvah". Similarly, he writes in 514:31 that candles may be lit in shul even during the day, because it is for the kavod of the place. He discusses Yahr Zeit candles in the Beur Halacha there, "Ner Shel Batalah". He offers four ideas. I'll list them in the same order that he gives them, but I'll number them with what seems to be his preference: 1) Light it on Erev Yom Tov. 3) If it wasn't lit on Erev Yom Tov, light it in the dining room, so as to get additional dining light. 2) But even better is to light it in shul, which solves any chashash of ner shel batalah 4) B'shaas had'chak, we can allow it anyway, because it is sort of ("ke'ayn") a ner shel mitzvah, being that it is to honor his parents. I find it noteworthy that even in this worst-case scenario, he still allows lighting the yahrzeit light, even though it is NOT a "ner shel mitzvah", but is only "ke'ayn ner shel mitzvah". But now I am even more confused than before, because by Bedikas Chometz, in the worst-case scenario, the Chofetz Chaim (Shaar Hatziyun 435:9) advises delaying the bedikah to Chol Hamoed, rather than lighting a ner for it on Yom Tov. He seems to be saying that lighting a yahrzeit candle on the day of the yahrzeit is a bigger mitzvah than using a ner to do a bedikas chometz as soon as he remembers. Wow, I never realized that yahrzeit candles were that important. And Rav SZ Auerbach (presuming that he agreed with Beur Halacha 514:Ner) would seem to be saying that even though the general rule is that lots of lights means more oneg, the extra hidur of using an avukah for havdala is not as big a deal as yahrzeit lights. Okay, but I wonder why. Akiva Miller