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<DIV>RAM wrote:</DIV>
<DIV><EM>My conclusion is that when the halacha talks about "sitting in the
<BR>shade of the s'chach", this is an idiomatic phrase which actually <BR>means,
"sitting in a place which WOULD be in the shade of the s'chach <BR>IF the sun
were directly overhead."<BR></EM></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>CM responds:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't get it. If the sun is always
considered directly overhead, there is NEVER "tsel defanos." What is
the difference between 19 amos and 21 amos?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Night never bothered me because it must mean "at
some point in the day" but in the arctic you can have entire 24/7 hour
periods with the sun on or near the horizon (above or below).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Of course if it is all psychological then the
actual angle of the sun is of no matter.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>KVT</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Chaim Manaster</FONT></DIV>
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