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<DIV>CM responds: </DIV>
<DIV>What do you mean "I responded that I didn't see the need for it, since
there was a simpler and more obvious explanation." In that case once you have
one decent peshat, who needs the other 69 - what happened to shivim panim
leTorah? That's it. Done my days work. Now that I have one peshat, I can close
up shop?</DIV>
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<DIV>In any case, your problem is not with me but with the Panim Yafos who gives
that little pshet'l. My point was not the specific peshat he gives but the fact
the pshet'l implies you are don in shailos in an ais milchama. (This is not
the best proof of this point as this may not be in the actual
battlefield).</DIV>
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<DIV>Kol Tuv</DIV>
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<DIV>Chaim Manaster</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=T613K@aol.com href="mailto:T613K@aol.com">T613K@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=avodah@aishdas.org
href="mailto:avodah@aishdas.org">avodah@aishdas.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=salman@videotron.ca
href="mailto:salman@videotron.ca">salman@videotron.ca</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 31, 2006 8:16
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Putting oneself in
danger</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 8/31/2006 2:18:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <A
href="mailto:salman@videotron.ca">salman@videotron.ca</A> writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>R' Chaim Manaster wrote:<BR>>>....They<BR>surrounded them on
four sides. R. Nosson says they left the fourth side<BR>open "kedai
sheyivrechu," so that they c[s]hould run away. He asks why<BR>should R.
Nosson allow them to get away? [gave a long answer]<<</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>TK: >>Please excuse me if I'm saying something so obvious that
of /course/ you already knew this, but -- the pshat is, if you don't allow
a defeated enemy an escape route, you corner him and force him to fight to
the death -- thus leading to unnecessary deaths among your own
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<P>CM: >>Sure, but that was not my point. My point was the
"[gave a long answer]" that you seem to have ignored.<<</P>
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<DIV>I didn't /ignore/ your long answer, I responded that I didn't see the
need for it, since there was a simpler and more obvious explanation. You
now respond that not everyone agrees with the simple explanation -- well,
OK. But what you probably should have done in the first place is say
what problems in the simple explanation necessitated a less obvious and more
convoluted explanation. </DIV></DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial
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<DIV><BR><BR><STRONG>--Toby Katz<BR>=============<BR></STRONG><FONT
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