[Avodah] Faith Talk?

[Micha Berger]

On Fri, Feb 06, 2026 at 12:35:37PM +0200, Arie Folger via Avodah wrote:
> RJR wrote:
>> Charlie Kirk's widow on faith
>> does our community talk like this?
>> Should we?
>> https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1290467793118078

> Sefardim talk like that and it is very powerful. In Israel you will find
> along those more affected by the water - people who lost loved ones - that
> Ashkenazim also talk like that.

This is a very hard mental state to be in. As having a social expectation
about what the holy thing to say is can end up having people feeling forced
to be echad bepeh ve'echad beleiv.

> I totally think we should do this more often. We could be in the habit of
> thanking G"d more often and more publicly.

This whole discussion makes me think of a comment I recently made to RYGB.
He wrote about the TYH (Thank You Hashem) phenomenon, and the more recent
pushback JLT (Just Learn Torah).

I think there is very much a connection to the amount of God Talk among
the Religious Right.

Anyway, here's the comment:

The Jewish Left have Tikkun Olam which, because they map their idea of a
"fixed world" so the Progressive Democrat vision, turns much of their
Judaism into being a Progressive.

And over in the Orthodox world, where so many Jews identify with the
Republican Right, we get assimilation of the Prosperity Gospel.

There is a reason why the social centers of TYH are the Five Towns and
some of the wealthier parts of Rockland County.

--

But BH we are seeing people who are fasting and thirsting ki im lishmoa
es divrei Hashem. They're just starting, they cannot have nuance. By
definition we are talking about revival of a neglected field. So of
course they haven't learned any depth yet!

--

JLT sounds like just a bunch of "snags".

Before this whole conflict, yeshivish camps also had kumzitzen. No one
has figured out how to get spirituality from Mitzvos and Talmud Torah
alone. And this was articulated back during the Pulmus haMussar. JLT
seems like a 2D caricature Volozhin's pushback.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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Micha Berger                 For a mitzvah is a lamp,
http://www.aishdas.org/asp   And the Torah, its light.
Author: Widen Your Tent                      - based on Mishlei 6:2
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