[Avodah] Transitions

[Micha Berger]

On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 10:52:52PM -0400, Akiva Miller via Avodah wrote:
> R' Joel Rich asked:
>> If the transition in general from the bet medrash to the
>> working world weren't seen as natural, would that mean that
>> the "system" has room for improvement?

> I am really unsure what is being asked here. Is there a presumption that
> the transition from the bet medrash to the working world currently IS seen
> as natural? And what is meant by "natural" anyway?

I am not sure that we all share something RJR takes as an unstated given.
Which RAM points out.

That is a value specific to some derakhim of being able to be maqdish
the world.

But there are derakhim in which it is assumed that most men ought to
be aiming at torasam umenasam, and should only reluctantly and with
regret. It not being "natural" is seen as a feature, not a bug.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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