[Avodah] nedarim and shevuos

[Sholom Simon]

Regarding "kol shehu", RMB said:

> Generalize that, and maybe you have a tool to help you think through the
> question of "is this mashehu literal?"
>
> 1- Does this issur refer to a specific kind of object?
> 2- Does that object have a minimal size?
>
> Or maybe not. Maybe it's *only* the noun "okhel" that has a minimum size.
> Other cases aren't crossing my mind right now.
>

A neder to not get hana'ah from a piece of food?

Switching to the subject line, this is probably a softball question, but if
a neder relates to a cheftza, and a shevua applies to an action, why do
people say "bli neder" so often in the context of actions?

And while I'm at it:  a few days ago, on the daf, the gemara (around
Shevuos 29?) spoke about Moshe (in Devarim) getting am yisroel to swear
they will follow the mitzvos.  The discussion revolved around Moshe's
specific lashon, but I found it curious that I didn't see a mention of the
issue of "isn't this a shevuas shav" (particularly because we had just
finished discussing shavuas shav).  Thoughts?

-- Sholom
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