[Avodah] Chalav Yisrael in 19th and early 20th cent US with Badatz )

Zev Sero zev at sero.name
Fri Jun 18 07:39:04 PDT 2021


On 18/6/21 9:52 am, Micha Berger via Avodah wrote:
> Zev himself mentioned in 2019
> <https://www.aishdas.org/avodah/vol37/v37n004.shtml#10>
> that the Ridvaz held like the PC. (It is only due to the 5th diberah and
> filial loyalty that I didn't open with the Ridvaz.) So, likely the same
> was true in Chicago.

The Radvaz doesn't hold like the Pri Chadash, the Pri Chadash holds like 
the Radvaz!  It's the Radvaz's shita, the Pri Chadash merely quotes it. 
  Which is why I don't understand why the velt speaks of holding or not 
holding like the Pri Chadash.


> I think RMF was mechadeish a way to preserve existing halachic pesaq
> even though he personally couldn't side with the PC over the CS. But the
> people who actually gave the pesaqim that set that norm did indeed tend
> to rely on the PC.

I don't think that's tenable.  For one thing, he *didn't* "preserve 
existing psak".  Not only does he make no mention of such psak, but he 
explicitly writes that it is *forbidden* to purchase milk directly from 
a farmer, which the Radvaz would permit.   He also writes explicitly 
that *we Ashkenazim* all follow the shita of the Chasam Sofer; if he was 
aware of "existing psak" otherwise, he pretended not to be.  That's not 
consistent with attempting to preserve it.


> PS: I am also unclear about acronyms. We have R David [ben Shelomo ibn
> Abi] Zimra who was expelled from Spain when he was 13. And the person
> I was talking about, R Yaakov David Wilovsky, founder of the yeshiva in
> Slutzk (now BMG of Lakewood) who came to the US to pay off publication
> of his edition of the Yerushalmi. He headed the Agudas haRabbanim and
> was rav in Chicago, when the Mafia in the meat industry forced him to
> flee to Tzefas.
> 
> I am used to calling the latter the Ridvaz, spelled reish yud... for R'
> Yaaqov David, and the former the Radbaz. Zev in 2019 called RYDW "Radvaz".

No, I didn't.  I have barely even heard of him.  I was referring to the 
Radvaz, R David ibn Zimra, whose shita the Chasam Sofer disputes.

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Zev Sero            Wishing everyone a healthy summer
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