[Avodah] free will

[Eli Turkel]

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 11:16 PM Micha Berger <micha at aishdas.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 09:27:28PM +0200, Eli Turkel wrote:
> > Chaos theory only says that the path is so complicated that we can't
> follow
> > it and small changes can make a big difference
> > However it is completely deterministic
>
> Not if those small changes aren't deterministic
>

That is meaningless. If one thinks the world is deterministic then the
small changes are deterministic. You can't prove free will by assuming
small changes are not determined. You are assuming what you want to prove

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> >                      More problematic
> > is that it replaces determinism by probability that has nothing to do
> with
> > free choice
>
> That was my point.
>
> So in summary neither chaos nor quantum theory disproves determinism.


Otoh he shows why libet type experiments and other brain research does not
prove determinism

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