[Avodah] Ultra-Orthodox suffering in COVID-19 pandemic due to sins of community

[Micha Berger]

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 06:12:33AM -0400, Akiva Miller via Avodah wrote:
> When I first wrote those words, "whether there might be other group(s)
> too", I was referring to a middle ground between "charedim" and "tinok
> shenishbu"...
> 
> And then it occurred to me that maybe RGE really does see only two groups.
> But if so, it is quite presumptuous of us to presume where HE would place
> the line between those groups, i.e., which of the groups he'd put US in.

Talmidim of his commented on FB.

RGE most likely was just asking his audience to look at their own sins,
and not "theirs". The chilonim are just the usual portrayal of sinners
-- and RGE is saying Hashem doesn't necessarily view them as such. Our
sinners are sinners; they are TnS. So now, what have WE been doing wrong.

Given that explanation by people who know what kinds of things RGE says:

DL falls through the cracks because they are neither the usual image of
"those sinners" nor the "us" of his audience.

And it is quite likely he sees DL as a point on the spectrum. He could
even see some DL as equally holy as many in his audience, and that
snippet of video would still sound the same.

:-)BBii!
-Micha

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