[Avodah] Accounting for a Minyan, by R Gil Student
Micha Berger
micha at aishdas.org
Fri Jun 5 12:08:15 PDT 2020
Please see https://www.torahmusings.com/2020/06/accounting-for-a-minyan-2
Torah Musings
Accounting for a Minyan
by R. Gil Student
Jun 5, 20
Can we count for a minyan a man who has stolen from the government?
All the sources that are the intended topic here deleted, as this is
just a teaser.
IV. Conclusion
I hesitate to draw any practical conclusions because these weighty
matters need to be addressed by our leading rabbis. Preliminarily, it
would seem, based on the above, that according to the Chakham Tzvi,
people who repeatedly cheat the government, year after year, cannot be
counted for a minyan (see also Minchas Yitzchak 3:65). According to the
Seridei Eish, if the community believes that the chillul Hashem caused
by government cheats merits excommunication, even just in theory, then
those who commit this sin cannot be counted for a minyan. On the other
hand, if--Heaven forbid--this sin is so common that people do not
consider it forbidden, then people who violate it can count for a
minyan according to the Zeicher Yehosef. Widespread sin is not
permission but the opposite--recognition of a communal, rather than
personal, spiritual illness. Additionally, Rav Moshe Feinstein (Iggeros
Moshe, Orach Chaim 1:23) permits counting every sinner for a minyan,
presumably aside from someone actually excommunicated. Therefore,
according to Rav Feinstein, even government cheats can count for a
minyan despite their theft, lies and chillul Hashem.
G'Shabbos,
-micha
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