[Avodah] halacha kbatrai

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Mon Jan 28 10:12:23 PST 2019


On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 12:42:25PM +0200, Eli Turkel via Avodah wrote:
: why would Rav Ashi's sanhedrin close 30 years before his death?

This assumes that R' Ashi's Sanhedrin even was a real Sanhedrin (as
the Rambam assumes) and that Hillel Nesi'ah's Sanhedrin wasn't the last
one (as is often assumed in discussions of our calendar) closing in 385.

According to tradition R Ashi was RY in Sura for 60 years. Historically,
the numbers seem to add up to 52. But according to this tradition, in
the first 30 yarchos kalla they produced the mesechtos of the Bavli,
and in the second 30 they chazered and honed them. If the Sanhedrin
collapsed (eg lack of eligible members, in-fighting, or whatever),
it explains where there aren't 31 mesechtos.

But in any case, the idea that the last 30 years were spent on chazarah
of the Bavli's 30 mesechtos is the reason for that gap.


: Acording to this Ravina was not a contemporary of Rav Ashi
: Actually there were at least 3 people with the name of Ravina. One in the
: days
: of Rava, one in the days of Rav Ashi and one in the days of the Saboraim

This would explain why the Rambam breaks with the norm and writes R'
Ashi first "R Ashi veRavina sof hora'ah". Also, Mar bar Rav Ashi appears
by "name" (Mar?) in shas too often to be the first of the savora'im.

No problems -- if we mean the 3rd Ravina.

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-Micha

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