[Avodah] Menachot Question 79a

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Mon Jan 7 12:47:24 PST 2019

On Sun, Jan 06, 2019 at 08:35:53PM +0100, Arie Folger via Avodah wrote:
: Menachot 78b-79a deals with the question of the sanctity of the loaves of a
: todah sacrifice that was deficient in some way...

: Rambam's psak also accords with the two kelalim of halakha kestam mishna
: and also Rabbi Meir veRabbi Yehudah halakha keRabbi Meir.
: And yet, I find that here it is difficult, because... Towards the end of
: the sugya (on 79a), there is a disagreement between Rabba and Rava
: regarding what to do with a Chatat that had been slaughtered with the
: disqualifying intention of chutz limqomo and then erroneously brought up
: upon the altar. The Gemara explains the disagreement between them as
: flowing forth from the disagreement  between Rabbi Eli'ezer and Rabbi
: Yehoshua' regarding a Todah sacrificed with that same disqualifying
: intention.
: The problem is that Rabbi Eli'ezer and Rabbi Yehoshua' only disagree
: regarding the loaves of a Todah sacrificed chutz limkomo according to Rabbi
: Yehudah's analysis...

According to the Tosefta ad loc 8:10
<https://www.sefaria.org/Tosefta_Menahot.8.10>, it's R' Meir who breings
down the machloqes, and R' Yehudah who says lo nechliqu.

Not saying I fully understand the sugya, just looks like a source for
the Rambam having a different understanding of the sugya than our girsa
of shas. (Not saying it's necessarily a girsa issue, just saying I can't
insist it's necessarily what the Bavli said.)

Chodesh Tov!

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