[Avodah] Question on video Can I Drink Kosher Coffee from an Uncertified Restaurant?

Zev Sero zev at sero.name
Tue Jul 31 15:40:03 PDT 2018


On 31/07/18 14:15, Ben Waxman via Avodah wrote:
> On 7/31/2018 8:27 AM, Ben Waxman via Avodah wrote:

>> Someone could simply answer him: Going to a non-Jew's home, every 
>> Shabbat, and drinking coffee or tea is a time honored custom, as brought 
>> down in the Aruch HaShulchan 225:21.

> Correction. That should be Oruch Hayim 425:21.

Let's compromise on 325 :-)

The AhS finds a defense for this apparently common practise (though he 
doesn't say people do it every shabbos), against the ShA's apparent 
position that it's forbidden because the nochri might put more water in 
the kettle if he knows the yid is coming.

Then he says maybe even the ShA would permit it in the case of a 
samovar, since one normally fills it to the same level no matter how 
many people are coming, and while someone expecting  many guests would 
put on more tea leaves, one only expecting one or two guests will not.

He doesn't address the issue of keilim at all.  It's possible that the 
Jews brought their own glasses (since eruvin were ubiquitous). Or 
perhaps they relied on a combination of stam kelim einan bnei yoman and 
the opinion (contrary to the Rama) that glass is not boleia.  It's not 
stated, so we can speculate all we like, but neither of these heterim 
would apply to Starbucks, in stores where the brew basket is washed 
together with treife kelim.

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Zev Sero            A prosperous and healthy 2018 to all
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