[Avodah] Dancing Around A Bonfire & Concern of Foreign Practices: Rav Wosner's Responsum

Zev Sero zev at sero.name
Fri May 4 11:15:17 PDT 2018


On 04/05/18 10:58, Micha Berger wrote:
> On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 03:08:37PM -0400, Zev Sero via Avodah wrote:
> :> The question is: How does anyone go at night, as the minhag hage'onim
> :> (? early rishonim?) includes Lag la-/baOmer night according to both
> :> Ashk and Seph?
> 
> : And the answer is that (a) Yom Simchas Rashbi, which was unknown in
> : the days of the Ge'onim and Rishonim, begins at nightfall.  Thus
> : their words, which are about the day the plague stopped, aren't
> : applicable to the new holiday, so those who drop aveilus for it do
> : so from nightfall...
> 
> You are okay with uprooting what was then a 700+ year old minhag,
> nispahseit bekhol Yisrael, codified in the SA, in light of new
> information? That's exactly the process question I'm asking about.

Nothing is being uprooted.  Something new has come.  Just as when a 
local "Purim" or lehavdil a fast is declared.


> If we were talking halakhah, I do not think we could overturn a
> comparably accepted accepted pesaq because someone learned something
> aggadic.
> 
> But moving on to the hashkafic implications of your statement: Never mind
> the need to believe that this new information is part of a "continuous
> revelation" model of matan Torah; I already knew Chassidim differ from
> what I was raised to believe on that.
> 
> I wonder. According to RMMS, Yom Simchas Rashbi is a logical consequence
> of the end of the plague. R' Aqiva couldn't teach the whole generation
> anymore; so he started teaching 5 new leaders, so that they can take
> over. One of whom was R' Shimon. So, what was revealed to the Ari (in
> this understanding of how the Ari got his Qabbalah) that geonim and
> rishonim couldn't have known about?

They didn't know about the Zohar, let alone the Idra Zuta and R Shimon's 
request that people rejoice at his "hilula".


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Zev Sero            A prosperous and healthy 2018 to all
zev at sero.name       Seek Jerusalem's peace; may all who love you prosper



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