[Avodah] Fake Matza - Hard Thin Matza is not a Baked Product ... it is not Bread = it is not Matza

[Micha Berger]

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 10:07:39AM +1100, Rabbi Meir G. Rabi via Avodah wrote:
: very thin (Dak Min HaDak) crackers never attain the status of bread no
: matter how much nor the circumstances in which they are eaten [Mishnah
: Berurah 168:37, see also ShaAr HaTziyun 168:36]

Except that we know that Ashkenazim were making hamotzi on cracker-like
matzos in the CC's day. For that matter, I would be shocked to learn that
the CC himself used anything but at his own seder!

So how could he possibly mean what you're saying he does?

: Such crackers/wafers are not deemed to be bread because they have not been
: baked but simply dried out.

Um, no. They're pas haba bekisnin at worst. We know crackers are considered
baked because they get a bori minei mezonos and not a ha'adamah.

: We might also add, that the dough which has so little water, cannot produce
: what the Halacha defines as bread. MDM [Modern Day Matza] is not Matza.

Who says there is a shiur on water / flour ratio, and if so, that it is more
than is used for contemporary Ashkenazi matzah?

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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