[Avodah] No more (Not eating) Gebrokts

[Micha Berger]

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 03:38:34PM -0400, Prof. Levine wrote:
:> If this worked, there would be no concept of minhag at all!
: 
: There would still be minhag,  but one could  decide not to follow
: some of the minhagim of one's parents,  which, of course, one can do
: anyway.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 07:35:41PM +0000, Rich, Joel via Avodah wrote:
: You may want to listen to r' j ziring's latest shiurim on minhag-the
: source and force of family minhagim isn't really clear

RHZ often discusses "how halkhah works" type questions. I highly recommend
his YUTorah page for anyone who enjoys that type of Avodah thread.

As for minhag avos, we've discussed this in the past.

We'll ignore Yom Tov sheini shel goliyos, since that's a derabbanan
established to preserve what was normal practice by necessity. The use
of the idiom "minhag avoseikhem beyadeikhem" aside, it's not a minhag.

But in Maqom sheNahagu (Pesachim 50b), we have the case of the people
of Baishan (Beit She'an?) are apparently being told by R' Yochanan to
follow minhag because the parents did it. Invoking "shema beni musar
avikha...." In past iterations I argued from that sugya and the parallel
Y-mi that what we call "minhag avos" is about the binding nature of our
ancestor's minhag hamaqom.

Admittedly, the cases in the gemaros are wholesale -- a community that
moved is told preserve the community's minhag avos. So my theory isn't
muchrach. But if the principle were understood to apply to invidivudals
too, it would solve the mystry of minhag avos.

And yes, most of the times I cited this idea was in response to attacks
on gebrochts. Runner up: qitniyos.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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