[Avodah] More on Women eating

[Professor L. Levine]

>From today's OU Kosher Halacha Yomis.


I was not aware of the fact that a married woman can eat before Kiddush provided her husband has not yet davened Shachris.


Q. After davening on Shabbos morning, one may not eat without hearing Kiddush. May women eat before hearing Kiddush, after reciting a short prayer?


A. Mishnah Berurah (286:7) writes that once one davens Shacharis, one becomes obligated in Kiddush and may not even drink until hearing Kiddush. However, before davening one may drink water or coffee (as was discussed in a previous Halacha Yomis). Shemiras Shabbos K'hilchasa (52:13) writes that women who do not daven Shacharis, but instead rely on the opinion that it is sufficient for them to say a short prayer in the morning become obligated to hear Kiddush after reciting that prayer. If a woman is feeling weak and does not have grape juice available, some poskim are lenient to allow them to eat and drink before hearing Kiddush, since there is an opinion that women are not obligated in Kiddush on Shabbos day [Teshuvas Minchas Yitzchok 4:28 (3)].


However, Igros Moshe (OC 4:101) writes that a married woman may eat before Kiddush provided that her husband has not yet davened Shacharis. According to Igros Moshe the obligation of a married woman to hear Kiddush only begins after her husband has davened Shacharis and he himself is obligated in Kiddush. For example, we can assume that if a man went to a 9:00 minyan, he will have finished davening Shacharis by about 9:45 AM. According to Igros Moshe provided that the wife said a short prayer in the morning, she may eat without hearing Kiddush until 9:45. If she wants to eat afterwards she must recite Kiddush.


-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.aishdas.org/pipermail/avodah-aishdas.org/attachments/20180116/2526194d/attachment.html>