[Avodah] Avraham A Cooked, Angels Ate - Bassar BeChalav

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Fri Nov 3 03:24:28 PDT 2017


On Fri, Nov 03, 2017 at 04:38:08PM +1100, Rabbi Meir G. Rabi via Avodah wrote:
: Avraham Avinu entertained three angels masquerading as human visitors;
: feeding them goat flesh cooked with milk. Generations later, due to this
: meal, the angels' protest, that the Torah ought not be given to the Jews,
: was quashed.

Where's this medrash? Tosafists (Daas Zeqeinim, Bereishis 18:8) note
the contradiction between it and the medrash that the avos observe all
of halakhah (even eiruv tavshilin) and suggests the following. It is
also the Sifsei Chakhamim's and Bekhor Shor's take on the pasuq.

The chumash says, "vayiqach chem'ah vechalav uven habaqar asher
asah". There is no indication in the peshat that the veal was made
in the butter and/or milk. And in fact, the milk is mentioned first.
Leading to the opinion that Avraham even served them in a way that
kept them from consuming dairy immediately after meat!

The SC says he served them the milk so that they wouldn't have to wait
while hungrily for the veal while it was shechted and cooked.

The Radaq gives a different sesolution: Avraham prepared both so as
to give them a choice of what to eat.

: Reb Meir Simcha of Dvinsk explains in Meshech Chochmah, that no sin was
: transgressed since it was BP flesh, which may be cooked with milk.

Lo zakhisi lehavin haRav Meir Simcha haKohein, nor R' Kanievsky. Isn't
that only mutar deRabbanan if it is killed before it can even stands up,
so as to avoid mar'is ayin, like shechitah? And the gemara's example of
the avos keeping kol haTorah kulah is Avraham keeping eiruv -- so that
that aggadita means to include derabbanans.

And even if we're saying that we're talking about BP without the taqanos,
And if it is ben paqua and thus didn't need shechitah, why does the
asame medrash make a point of Avraham shechting it?

The tradition that Avraham Avinu authored seifer haYetzirah (for which
I also have no source) includes the resolution that a calf made through
ShY ("uven havaqar ASHER ASAH"), rather than invoking BP.

:-)BBii!
-Micha

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