[Avodah] 10 tribes -- exile without redemption

[Zev Sero via Avodah]

On 26/06/17 12:15, Micha Berger via Avodah wrote:
> On this thread, did any of us mention birkhas ge'ulah? "Ufdeih
> khin'umekha Yehudah veYisrael" expresses our expectation that Hashem
> will redeem both malkhios. Or is there another way to talk separately
> about Yehudah and Yisrael.
> 
> So I would think the siddur pasqens, and this is in all traditional
> nusachos, that the 1- tribes are not permanently lost.

It is not in all traditional nuschaos.  TTBOMK it's found only in Nusach 
Ashkenaz.  Sefarad substitutes the pasuk "Goaleinu", Italians substitute 
"Biglal avot...", I don't know what other traditional nuschaot do.

(Modern Nusach Ashkenaz and some versions of the Chassidic "Sfard" 
combine the old Ashkenaz and Sefarad endings; this was originally Nusach 
Tzorfat, back when that was distinct from Ashkenaz.)

(The reason for the Sefaradi ending with the pasuk rather than the other 
two versions is that the bracha is about Geulat Mitzrayim, not the 
future Geulah, hence the chatima "Ga'al Yisrael" as distinct from "Go'el 
Yisrael" in the 7th of the 18, so ending with a prayer for the future 
Geulah is off topic.  I don't know how the other two nuschaot would 
respond, but maybe that's why NA ended up adopting the Tzorfati 
combination.)

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