[Avodah] Two days [was: kitniyot]

[Lisa Liel via Avodah]

I think it's a false dichotomy.  We assume that zman matan Toratenu is 
the calendar date on which the Torah was given.  Clearly, that's not the 
case.  Zman matan Toratenu is 50 days after the calendar date on which 
we left Egypt.  Our receiving the Torah was an inextricable part of the 
Exodus.

Lisa

On 4/28/2017 5:58 AM, Sholom Simon via Avodah wrote:
> The link between Shavuos and Matan Torah is  an artifact of our fixed
>> calendar; when kidush hachodesh was going Shavuos was not always on zman
>> matan toraseinu.
>
> Leading to an obvious question: did they say "zman matan toraseinu" 
> when davening if Shavuos wasn't on zman matan toraseinu that year?


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