[Avodah] emuna and science

Lisa Liel via Avodah avodah at lists.aishdas.org
Thu Jan 19 11:44:01 PST 2017


On 1/19/2017 12:02 AM, Micha Berger via Avodah wrote:
> This is meaningless. Science only handles empirical reality.

Not really.  Science, at least as practiced, includes extrapolating 
beyond any empirical reality based on a "sense" that as things are now, 
so they must always have been.

> It has no way
> to discuss right vs wrong, meaning, or religion. So no ma'amin could be
> "apurely scientifically minded person" on those grounds -- but neither
> can any moral person.

I disagree.  We have impirical evidence for our positions (call them 
beliefs or otherwise).  It may not be rigorous proof, but it is 
evidence, and it is impirical.  There are those who will argue that 
saying this is dangerous, because it opens the door to impirical 
evidence *against* our position, which also exists.  That's a matter of 
personal preference, I suppose.

Lisa


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