[Avodah] 4 kingdoms

[Micha Berger via Avodah]

On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 05:28:05PM +0200, R Eli Turkel wrote:
: Again this is only when there is a foreign ruler which is not true today

Yeah, but it does open the door for the chassidishe rabbeim who say that
galus is a spiritual state that isn't ended by the establshment of a
secular government. Mah li Yavan, mah li Western Democracy by Jews --
either way there is a level of hesteir Panim.

Which wasn't even true under Menashe, as the other governmental
authorities -- the nevu'ah, kehunah, beis din hagadol, still operated.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha