[Avodah] Matana Al M'nas L'hachzir

[Micha Berger via Avodah]

On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 12:31:35AM -0400, Akiva Miller via Avodah wrote:
: Now suppose an adult gives his lulav to a child, clearly and expressly
: invoking that it is a Matana Al M'nas L'hachzir. It appears to me that the
: child is halachically incapable of fulfilling the tenai, so the gift is
: never chal to begin with...          The procedure has the advantage that
: the exact same words are said regardless of whether the recipient is an
: adult or a child.
: 
: (I do realize that there's a side problem, regarding Mitzvas Chinuch,
: because if the child doesn't own it, then the child is not doing the
: mitzvah properly, so how is the parent doing Chinuch? This is dealt with in
: the second half of MB 658:28.)

A different chinukh problem -- one of teaching choshein mishpat. I could
just picture these children growing up mistakenly thinking that a qatan
can be maqneh. "After all, didn't we participate in a matanah al menas
lehachzir every year when we were kids?"

And in general, there may be midevar sheqer tirchaq issue in encouraging
people to give something they are calling a matanah because we know
the matanah won't be chal.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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