[Avodah] Waterproof S'chach? Really?
Micha Berger via Avodah
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Thu Oct 20 05:26:05 PDT 2016
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 09:58:22AM -0700, Chaim Tatel via Avodah wrote:
: Has anyone seen this in action?
: From what I've seen in the poskim, if it can't rain in your sukkah, the
: s'chah is pasul.
>From <http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=2766> it seems
RYSE discusses your question, which has become a machloqes haposqim:
... Such Sechach enables one to continue
performing the Misva of Sukka even under rainy conditions, and it
thus might seem preferable to use such Sechach.
Indeed, Rav Yosef Shalom Elyashiv (1910-2012), in Sefer Ha'sukka,
ruled that it is permissible and even recommended to use this rainproof
Sukka. He was then asked how to reconcile his ruling with the custom
recorded by the Tur (Rabbenu Yaakob Ben Asher, 1269-1343), in the
name of the Samak (Sefer Misvot Katan by Rabbi Yishak of Corbeil, 13th
century), not to construct Sukkot with impenetrable Sechach. According
to this custom, which is codified by the Shulhan Aruch, the Sechach
must be a temporary covering which does not protect the Sukka from the
elements. Rav Elyashiv responded that this refers to very dense Sechach
which cannot be penetrated by wind, rain or insects, and such Sechach
cannot be used because the Sukka must be a crude, temporary structure.
The new rainproof Sechach, by contrast, has spaces through which wind
and insects can enter the Sukka, but is constructed in such a way that
rain immediately falls off the Sechach without entering the Sukka. Such
Sechach does not violate the requirement to use a temporary covering.
This is also the position taken by Rav Elyashiv's son-in-law, Rav
Haim Kanievsky (contemporary), in Sheraga Meir.
Several other Poskim, however, disagreed. The Shebet Ha'levi (Rav
Shemuel Wosner, contemporary) wrote that we should not be trying
to "outsmart" Halacha by devising creative strategies, and we
should use the same kind of Sechach that Jews have been using for
generations. Likewise, the Kinyan Ha'Torah maintained that although
rainproof Sechach might be technically permissible, one should use the
traditional Sechach. This is also the view of Rabbi Yishak Yaakob Weiss
of the Eda Ha'haredit (in Keneh Ha'bosem). The Yalkut Yosef (Sukka, p.
85) cites both views without reaching a conclusion, and it appears
that Hacham Ovadia Yosef did not issue a ruling on this issue.
In light of the difference of opinion that exists, it would seem that
one should preferably not use such Sechach, especially given the fact
that we are dealing with a Biblical obligation. However, one who
already owns this Sechach may certainly rely on the ruling of Rav
Elyashiv and use it for the Misva.
Tir'u baTov!
-Micha
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