[Avodah] 2 days RH

[Zev Sero via Avodah]

On 09/10/16 21:52, Micha Berger via Avodah wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 09, 2016 at 09:45:59PM -0400, Akiva Miller via Avodah wrote:
> :                                                                   It's no
> : different than how the second day of Shavuos is not the "real" Shavuos, yet
> : we say in our prayers that today is when the Torah was given. Ditto for the
> : second Seder, etc etc....

> The second day of Shavous is quite different than the second seder. The
> second day of Shavuos is the actual anniversary of matan Torah. Shavuos
> is Zeman Matan Toraseinu only in the sense that the zeman is defined by
> the omer, not the date.


(1) Is it?   When Shavuos did not happen to be on the 6th of Sivan, did
they say Zman Matan Toraseinu anyway?

(2) If we were defining ZMT by its relationship to the omer then 
aderaba, the Torah was given on the 51st day of the omer (yetzias 
mitzrayim was on a Thursday and Matan Torah on a Shabbos), so davka the 
second day would be the real ZMT, and in EY they should not be saying
ZMT at all!

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Zev Sero                                 Gemar Chasima Tova
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