[Avodah] chinuch

[Micha Berger via Avodah]

On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:33:10AM +0200, Eli Turkel via Avodah wrote:
: 4 minim that are pasul because that is not chinuch. In davening the child
: does not have to say everything but it has to be at least a partial
: davening, i.e., complete portions and not half of many things.

I understand 4 minim, which is all or nothing.

But in terms of davening, there is a qiyum of a partial manner. For
that matter, there is a baseline -- not partial -- qiyum of every
mitzvah one can fulfill davening beyechidos with just saying from
Birkhos Shema through E-lokai Netzor. (For that matter, you can --
and some rishonim hold you should -- skip much of Yotzer Or, and not
say Qedushah biychidus.)

But in any case, there is partial or complete qiyum in partial portions
too. A serious lack of hiddur. Jumping right into Shema without Pesuqei
deZimra will almost certainly be a Shema with less kavanah. Aside from
losing the opportunity (Berakhos 4b) to be assured of olam haba by saying
Tehillah leDavid (Ashrei) 3x daily.

So why would this rule not imply teaching a qatan (eg) the chasimos
of birkhos Shema first, so that they can have a qiyum of saying all
three earlier?

:-)BBii!
-Micha

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