[Avodah] Rav Melamed, Metal Pots, RMF Wine 1:6, Teshuvas HaRaShBa

[Micha Berger via Avodah]

On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 09:45:00AM +1100, Rabbi Meir G. Rabi via Avodah wrote:
: R Micha wrote that RMF proves that nosein ta'am is not an issue for stam
: yeinam, such as sherry casks. His proof, bitul besheish - one part wine to
: 6 parts water is easily tastable.
: 
: One doesn't need bitul, because the gezeira of stam yeinam doesn't apply.

IM YD 1:62-63. The question was sent to him by REMT's father, R Pinchas
Teitz. Someone in Elizabeth started a kosher whiskey business. RMF's
answer was that it wasn't necessary mei'iqar hadin, but tavo alav berakhah
since he aids the ballei nefesh who should still avoid such whiskey.

Oh, and the 1:6 is the Rama against the SA -- YD 134:13.

: It seems that Reb Moshe disagrees with the RaShBa ...
: because the RaShBa's argument is that Chazal made their decrees in order to
: promote social isolation and therefore it makes no sense to propose that if
: the component is below a certain thresh-hold it should be Battel - the
: decree must follow the purpose and apply in all circumstances unless it is
: an inadvertent mixture.

I'm missing something. RMF is saying it's not bitul, but a liquid
that isn't yayin and therefore not subject to the gezeira. How can
that statement contradict a rule in the Rashba about bitul? Does the
Rashba explicitly include the case where intentionally added thing is
stam yeinam?

(Where RMF may be holding like someone other than the Rashba is in YD
2:41.) The OU describes how they understand and implement this pesaq
at
<https://oukosher.org/blog/kosher-professionals/lo-basi-ella-lorer-ain-mivatlin-issur-lichatchila/>

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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