[Avodah] 2 days RH

Micha Berger via Avodah avodah at lists.aishdas.org
Mon Oct 10 08:20:47 PDT 2016


On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 10:43:38AM -0400, Zev Sero wrote:
: (2) If we were defining ZMT by its relationship to the omer then
: aderaba, the Torah was given on the 51st day of the omer (yetzias
: mitzrayim was on a Thursday and Matan Torah on a Shabbos), so davka
: the second day would be the real ZMT, and in EY they should not be
: saying ZMT at all!

According to Maadanei YT, the 50 days isn't including Shavuos, but
including the first day of Pesach. A day 0. 49 days - 50 "fenceposts". And
as the original Pesach started at midnight, or in the daytime when we
were kicked out (I do not recall which the Tos' YT says), day 0 was
atypically the next day.

According to the Maharal (Tif'eres Yisrael ch 27) says that Hashem
was ready on the 6th, but MRAH delayed the nesinah to the 7th. And thus
mitzido, the zeman was on the 6th. Yom *ha*Shishi, as Rashi notes on
Bereshis 1.

The MA connects Moshe's added day to YT sheini shel golios!

The Brisker Rav says that the 6th is thus zeman matan Toraseinu, the 7th
was the anniversary of qabbalas haTorah. Unlike what I said, but w/out
touching my point.

But in any case, yes... this question is asked.

Still, my point was that Yom Shavuos Sheini shel Golios is unlike other YT
sheini, as it's the only case where the historical event is actually on
the latter date (according to the Tur and SA, who understand th halakhah
as being based on R Yosi). And thus it's harder to understand where YT
rishon comes from than the qedushas hayom of the 2nd day.

GCT!
-Micha

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