[Avodah] how to 'fix' a mamzer

Akiva Miller via Avodah avodah at lists.aishdas.org
Sun May 15 06:43:49 PDT 2016


R' Mordechai Cohen asked:

<<< The kids are not related to him, and he did not fulfill pru u'revu thru
them (the kids are m'yayachais to the mother, and not to him) >>>

My understanding is that if a Jew has relations with a non-Jewess and the
resulting children convert to Judaism, he DOES fulfill p'ru uv'vu through
them. (Maybe that's only in the case of a non-Jewush man who converts
together with his children? I'm not sure.)

<<< He decides he wants to 'stay' with his shifcha ... The posuk calls his
shifcha and kids as 'ishti and banay' - why? >>>

No, it's not the *posuk* who refers to the shifcha and children that way.
The posuk is merely quoting the man. It is the man who referred to them
that way, and given his love for them, I'd expect nothing less. One might
argue that he wrong for feeling that love and/or for expressing it, but
that's irrelevant: He does feel that way, and he did verbalize it, and the
Torah is merely quoting him.

My second answer is more technical. Hebrew has no word for wife. His words
could just as easily be translated as "I love my woman", which I presume
you'll concede to be accurate. As far as "my children", well, he just
wasn't being very clear. He didn't mean "my halachic children", but merely
"my genetic children".

Akiva Miller
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