[Avodah] submission to an authority

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From: saul newman via Avodah  <avodah at lists.aishdas.org>


is it or is it not a tenet of   Orthodoxy  that to be defined as O  one must
submit to some defined  human authority?    clearly,  we must deny the
preposition  that to be O one must submit to
either the entity called  'moetzets  gedolei hatorah'  of the USA or 
Israel....
so, is there a tenet of  O  that submission to a defined panel of leadership
is  mandatory?

 
 
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Aseh lecha rav.  You cannot be Orthodox if you refuse to submit to  /any/ 
rabbinical authority and if you insist on setting yourself up as your own  
authority in all matters great and small.  Even someone who genuinely is a  
great Torah scholar must consult with colleagues and not be arrogant.  If  
there are any midos that define OO, they are self-importance  and arrogance.  
This is also true of the "Orthodox" feminist movement, and  all movements and 
individuals who reject the very idea of rabbinical  authority.
 
BTW we must NOT "deny the preposition" because we cannot make ourselves  
understood without prepositions.  When I was in the 8th grade I had to  
memorize this list:  in, of, to, for, by, on, into, over, under, with,  above, 
below, at, from, across, beside, between, without.  Without the  preposition, 
all attempts at communication would be like the Tower of  Babel.  Of course, 
even /with/ the preposition, a lot of what goes on here  is just like that 
-- misunderstandings, talking at cross-purposes, and throwing  bricks at one 
another.
 
So, not to forget the main point -- aseh lecha rav.
 
 
--Toby Katz
t613k at aol.com
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