[Avodah] Ahab

Zev Sero via Avodah avodah at lists.aishdas.org
Wed Nov 25 13:06:33 PST 2015


On 11/25/2015 03:16 PM, Micha Berger via Avodah wrote:
> I wonder about the question, though. Did Chazal consider any of Malkhei
> Yisrael legitimate even if their membership in Benei Yisrael were not
> a question?

Yes, malchei Yisrael had a din melech. And thus were subject to the
prohibition against appointing a foreigner king.


On 11/25/2015 01:29 PM, Eli Turkel via Avodah wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015, 20:03 Lisa Liel<lisa at starways.net>  wrote:
>> Just because she was a wicked idolater doesn't mean she didn't convert
>> before marrying Ahav...

> Given Jezebel's history highly unlikely. Even with Solomon's wives
> we have discussions.  Besides any conversion would be a farce.

Surely she did convert.  Ach'av was a shomer mitzvos, and would not have
married a shiktze.   And she did accept her new country's god -- after
all, her sons were not named Achazbaal and Baalram.  But she didn't
abandon her old gods.  She must have accepted the obligation of mitzvos,
including the obligation not to serve avoda zara, and that if she were
caught serving AZ she could be executed, but either she intended to
break her obligation and expected not to be caught, or she originally
intended to abandon her gods but later backslid.

>   What bet din?

Ovadiah was Ach'av's house rabbi, so presumably his beit din.

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Zev Sero
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