[Avodah] Chitzonios and Tereifos

[Michael Poppers via Avodah]

R'Micha replied:
> The sun is also an external tool. <
Which is why I previously differentiated between the sun _or_ a substitute
light source no brighter than it and between what I call "external tools."

> This is wh I think we need more nuance here. <
My theory is that anything we, a 6th-Day "creation", can see with the tools
provided as part of the *b'riyah* (or, again, a fair substitute) is within
our Halachic field of vision.

Best wishes for a *shanah tovah umsuqah* from
*Michael Poppers* * Elizabeth, NJ, USA



On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Micha Berger <micha at aishdas.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 11:52:48AM -0400, Michael Poppers via Avodah wrote:
> : A knife is an external tool.  The inside of a lung cannot be seen by the
> : human eye without opening it.
>
> The sun is also an external tool.
>
> This is wh I think we need more nuance here.
>
> It might depend on whether a hollow inside the lung is judged as a lung
> that is defective in a way we can't see without a knife, or the hole is
> a mum that we could be able to see ourselves if the ourside of the lung
> weren't in the way.
>
> But in either case, I still csn't articulste what seems to me to be
> a obvious difference.
>
> Tir'u baTov!
> -Micha
>
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