[Avodah] A woman is acquired
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Wed May 6 20:33:38 PDT 2015
[1] I think that it is fairly clear that Jewish law does not believe that a
woman is owned by her husband, the language of the Mishna notwithstanding.
Can anyone point to a clear statement by Hazal or rishonim that supports
my
supposition?
My thanks,
Shalom Z. Berger
[2] I own my shoes. This gives me certain rights, such as wearing them to
the exclusion of anyone else, or the choice of who I might lend them to. I
also have certain responsibilities; I cannot simply destroy them for no
reason.
I own my tefillin too. But the things I can do with my tefillin are much
more limited than what I can do with my shoes.
I have certain rights and responsibilities vis a vis my wife as well. Do I
own her? I don't know. Is there a real nafka mina, or is it just semantics?
Akiva Miller
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[1] Along the lines of what R' Micha Berger posted. On Ber 24:57 -- "Let
us call the maiden and ask her what she wants to do" -- Rashi says, "Mikan
she'ein masi'in es ha'isha ela mida'ata -- from here we learn that one does
not [or may not, or cannot] marry a woman without her consent." I think
he's quoting Kesubos 57b.
I can't think of any kind of property whose consent is required before the
property can be acquired.
[2] The analogy to tefillin is flawed. You do not have any obligations or
responsibilities to your tefillin. Rather, in regards to your tefillin,
you have obligations towards your Maker! He has told you what you must do,
may do, or must not do, with your tefillin.
A better analogy would have been to your ox or your dog, where you do
actually have obligations to your animals, an obligation, for example, to feed
the animal before you eat your own meal. And a still better analogy would
have been to acquiring a slave, about which the Talmud says "One who
acquires a Jewish slave is like one who has acquired a master! (Kiddushin 20a)" --
because of all the obligations he incurs towards his slave.
So there does seem to be some kind of ownership that a husband has
vis-a-vis his wife, but then, she also in some sense owns him. Certainly she has
the right to make specific claims on him, because he has specific
obligations towards her. Shir Hashirim speaks about the love between Hakadosh
Baruch Hu and Am Yisrael in an extended poetic analogy to the love between a
husband and a wife. What does the wife say about her husband? Dodi li ve'ani
lo -- He belongs to me, and I belong to Him.
--Toby Katz
t613k at aol.com
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