[Avodah] leap of faith

Eli Turkel via Avodah avodah at lists.aishdas.org
Wed Apr 29 01:56:31 PDT 2015


<<Anyway, that's how I understood REW. R' Elchanan argues that on an
informal level, the idea that the universe had to have a Creator is
as obvious as a Euclidean postulate or the injustice of oppression.

To not believe in G-d requires a formal proof, which one's negios then
determine if they find it sound or specious,  and whether they accept
the postulates on which it's built.>>

the Euclidean postulates are based on everyone's daily experience. In fact
we know they are not true in other circumstances (eg on a globe)
The injustice of oppression is more debatable. Surely ISIS believes that
destroying ancient culture and cutting off heads of nonbelievers is a
"mitzvah"

As such the belief in a creator is obvious to one with a religious
upbringing. For years scientists (and ancient philosophers) believed in an
infinitely old world. Even today some scientists are attemping to justify a
big bang without a creator (infinite big bangs , other universes etc.).

The whole idea of axioms/postulates are that they are not provable.

-- 
Eli Turkel
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