[Avodah] The 5th cup

[Ben Waxman]

On 3/24/2013 8:40 PM, Lisa Liel wrote:
> I've never understood why people look at v'heiveiti as a 5th lashon of 
> geula, particularly when it's implicit in v'hotzeiti.  V'hayiti seems 
> much more appropriate.

Why is it implicit? Hotzeiti means we left Egypt, it doesn't say 
anything about coming to Eretz Yisrael.



On 3/24/2013 7:06 PM, Liron Kopinsky wrote:
> Does he say when that cup should be drunk? In general, I thought the 
> Halacha was that you are allowed to drink extra cups between cups 2 
> and 3, but not between 1 & 2, to not be drunk during maggid, and not 
> between 3 & 4 (or after 4) to not look like we are actually having a 
> 5th cup.

When we say Hallel HaGadol (Sh'bishfileinu tzachar lanu . .. ).

Ben