[Avodah] Is Panentheism Heresy

Kenneth Miller kennethgmiller at juno.com
Sat Jan 19 16:50:42 PST 2013

R' Jonathan Baker wrote:

> Terminology debate: Lisa says Kabbalah is equal to Jewish
> mysticism of all schools, I say ... that it's the subject
> matter of the Zohar, the Bahir, etc.  texts from the 1100s
> onwards.  We disagree, I think we should just leave it.

This is how getting hung up on terminology confuses things. Like Lisa, I too have always lumped "Kabbala", "Zohar", and the topics mentioned in "Ein Dorshin" in pretty much the same category. Which is NOT to say that they are the *exact* same category. It is clear that there are some differences between them. And if one wants to talk about what we are allowed to learn or forbidden to learn, one should very precisely explain which is being discussed.

Then again, what do I know? Until I joined Avodah, I thought that the term "Chazal" referred to ALL of our Chachamim, zichronam livracha, regardless of when they lived (i.e., even very recent ones).

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