[Avodah] Sleeves that Cover the Elbows

Prof. Levine llevine at stevens.edu
Thu Aug 16 04:31:57 PDT 2012


At 05:50 PM 8/15/2012, Chana Luntz wrote:


>Rav Henkin thus concludes on pages 24-25:
>
>     It thus emerges from Rashi, Yerushalmi and Korban Ha-Edah that pritzut
>     in exposure of the upper arms comes not from the arms themselves
>     but from the body being visible via the arms. ...
>
>Rav Henkin himself prefers to follow the view that more than a tefach of the
>upper arms is a problem, and hence writes as follows:
>
>     A typology can be established according to this as follows:
>
>     1. sleeveless dresses - forbidden by all opinions, as the body can
>        be seen;
>
>     2. short sleeves, loose - forbidden if body can be seen;
>
>     3. short sleeves, tight - body cannot be seen, but prohibited if
>     most of the upper arm is uncovered (rubo k'kulo);
>
>     4. sleeves halfway to elbow - proscribed because of tefach meguleh,
>        room for limmud zechut;
>
>     5. sleeves to within a tefach of the elbow - minimum permitted;
>
>     6. sleeves to elbow - recommended;
>
>     7. sleeves to below elbow - first level chumra;
>
>     8. sleeves to wrists - second level chumra.
>
>     The above does not supplant any communal or familial minhag.

Then I guess I have to conclude that what R. Fuchs wrote in Halichos 
Bas Yisroel is either misleading or incorrect or both.  See

http://www.stevens.edu/golem/llevine/bas_yisroel.pdf

On the other hand, given the Kedusha of EY wouldn't one expect women 
living there to conduct themselves at least according to 7 above.

YL

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