[Avodah] Sleeves that Cover the Elbows
Prof. Levine
llevine at stevens.edu
Thu Aug 16 04:31:57 PDT 2012
At 05:50 PM 8/15/2012, Chana Luntz wrote:
>Rav Henkin thus concludes on pages 24-25:
>
> It thus emerges from Rashi, Yerushalmi and Korban Ha-Edah that pritzut
> in exposure of the upper arms comes not from the arms themselves
> but from the body being visible via the arms. ...
>
>Rav Henkin himself prefers to follow the view that more than a tefach of the
>upper arms is a problem, and hence writes as follows:
>
> A typology can be established according to this as follows:
>
> 1. sleeveless dresses - forbidden by all opinions, as the body can
> be seen;
>
> 2. short sleeves, loose - forbidden if body can be seen;
>
> 3. short sleeves, tight - body cannot be seen, but prohibited if
> most of the upper arm is uncovered (rubo k'kulo);
>
> 4. sleeves halfway to elbow - proscribed because of tefach meguleh,
> room for limmud zechut;
>
> 5. sleeves to within a tefach of the elbow - minimum permitted;
>
> 6. sleeves to elbow - recommended;
>
> 7. sleeves to below elbow - first level chumra;
>
> 8. sleeves to wrists - second level chumra.
>
> The above does not supplant any communal or familial minhag.
Then I guess I have to conclude that what R. Fuchs wrote in Halichos
Bas Yisroel is either misleading or incorrect or both. See
http://www.stevens.edu/golem/llevine/bas_yisroel.pdf
On the other hand, given the Kedusha of EY wouldn't one expect women
living there to conduct themselves at least according to 7 above.
YL
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