[Avodah] If you have an electronic water meter, can you turn on yo ur faucet on Shabbos?

[Micha Berger]

On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 01:46:28AM +0300, Doron Beckerman wrote:
: Until the water co. found out about it. Then they'd charge you. Who says
: you'd prefer to run the risk of them finding out and charging you by their
: methods rather than have the meter run?

In any case, didn't RSM already argue (quite convincingly, IMHO) from
the 1st mishnah in AZ -- "nifra'in meihem mipenei shehu meitzar", that
paying even a valid debt isn't called "nicha lei"? If so, we can ask
why, but not if.

(The conversation would look the same, but we already have our answer
-- if we hold that PRDNL is okay for a derabbanan or double-derabbanan,
and the meter qualifies. If the meter doesn't always display the count,
problem solved trivially -- there is no issur to overcome.)

:-)BBii!
-Micha

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